tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post5387946181714852648..comments2024-03-18T08:42:30.787+00:00Comments on Chris Townsend Outdoors: Cuben Fibre TrailstarChris Townsendhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04282926597863688874noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-62652231142744833432017-10-02T23:03:43.485+01:002017-10-02T23:03:43.485+01:00I've not had this problem Graham. I have had t...I've not had this problem Graham. I have had the centre pole pushed down so hard the sections shortened but I've never had it blown over. A guyline from the peak of the Trailstar might help. In strong winds I do have the centre pole fairly short anyway.Chris Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04282926597863688874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-15610307436895891692017-10-02T21:31:15.455+01:002017-10-02T21:31:15.455+01:00Chris - this weekend on Moel Siabod the strong win...Chris - this weekend on Moel Siabod the strong winds pushed my centre walking pole over and collapsed the silnylon trailstar on me - not easy to escape the ookworks inner and erect it again in the dark - any tips to avoid this - external guy line on centre ???! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06899907925505064989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-29462333912041796232017-10-02T21:28:20.350+01:002017-10-02T21:28:20.350+01:00Hi Chris - on Moel Siabod this weekend the string ...Hi Chris - on Moel Siabod this weekend the string winds pushed my centre walking pole over collapsing my silnylon trailstar on me. Anyway to stop this ? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06899907925505064989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-80152095817578592042017-08-21T14:09:23.500+01:002017-08-21T14:09:23.500+01:00Using 2 mm dyneema will work consistently only if ...Using 2 mm dyneema will work consistently only if you tie off with a half hitch next to the line-loc. this will prevent any slippage.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00461289455340419294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-16563870384357409762012-05-26T19:15:57.517+01:002012-05-26T19:15:57.517+01:00Hi Justin, outside of midge season the Trailstar. ...Hi Justin, outside of midge season the Trailstar. For midges the Akto (or Scarp 1). I haven't used a Duomid yet. I have the OookWorks mesh inner for the Trailstar - when there are midges I'll try it.Chris Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04282926597863688874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-41209263013184670092012-05-24T01:36:28.118+01:002012-05-24T01:36:28.118+01:00Hi Chris
Which do you prefer?
...Trailstar, Dou...Hi Chris<br /><br />Which do you prefer? <br /><br />...Trailstar, Doumid or Akto???<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />JustinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-25544850813995277082012-03-15T15:17:08.417+00:002012-03-15T15:17:08.417+00:00My experience after switching to lighter line (kel...My experience after switching to lighter line (kelty triptease) was not all that encouraging, given that tight pitching is essential is shelters of this type (mine is the silnylon version). The linelocs themselves have been a real revelation, but the kelty line tended to slip when wet. Having misplaced the original line I've used some of the thicker line from Hilleberg and been very happy RichieRichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610857410766815286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-10282247201807991232012-03-07T21:52:40.045+00:002012-03-07T21:52:40.045+00:00Just looking at the 120cm pitch and it looks diffe...Just looking at the 120cm pitch and it looks different from the silnylon version pitched at 120cm. The door looks a lot narrower and higher and of course there are the big gaps. I have usually pitched mine at 120cm unless I was very sure there will be no wind. I did pitch it at about 100cm one night and found the interior space was compromised.jephotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597240886756240563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-91404112260845057082012-03-07T21:45:41.748+00:002012-03-07T21:45:41.748+00:00I am currently lucky enough to own both versions. ...I am currently lucky enough to own both versions. I haven't pitched the cuben one yet, as I have been too busy and used the silnylon one on my last trip. I had my youngest boy along and had visions of him destroying my new cuben wonder. <br /><br />In terms of guylines I have found the same as Colin. Lighter lines do seem to hold OK, but at other times they don't, so I always use the MLD jephotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11597240886756240563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-76962218822903404102012-03-06T13:46:09.554+00:002012-03-06T13:46:09.554+00:00Colin, I've tried 1.2 and 2mm Dyneema and the ...Colin, I've tried 1.2 and 2mm Dyneema and the latter seems to hold okay. I'll bring some next week (we're going to compare the silnylon and Cuben Fibre tarps). <br /><br />I've used Pacerpoles with the Trailstar because that's what I use anyway. I'm sure any other trekking poles would be okay.<br /><br />I left the tarp up last week while we went up Mullach Clach a'Chris Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04282926597863688874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-5207442848013044452012-03-06T10:53:19.274+00:002012-03-06T10:53:19.274+00:00Chris,
Will midges be a problem at night sleeping ...Chris,<br />Will midges be a problem at night sleeping under the tarp?Alastairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07347457602246280811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-16584588611431865472012-03-06T09:31:55.848+00:002012-03-06T09:31:55.848+00:00Dave. The tarp poles supplied by MLD for some of h...Dave. The tarp poles supplied by MLD for some of his other tarps are not suitable for the Trailstar. They are way too flexible and would not support a shelter like the Trailstar. They are also not height adjustable which is very important if you want to get the most from this shelter. <br /><br />I wouldn’t leave a shelter like the Trailstar pitched unattended for long periods because of its openColin Ibbotsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-90215352635892264942012-03-06T09:24:08.322+00:002012-03-06T09:24:08.322+00:00Wow, what fab replies.
Colin, the yellow guy line...Wow, what fab replies.<br /><br />Colin, the yellow guy line on there is Ron's.<br />The green my paracord from Amazon.<br /><br />I sort of colour coded it and knot coded it at the rear. The rear line is green with two knots on the end. The mid tie points next to it are yellow with one knot in end. That way I know which way to turn it to find the very rear pegging point.<br /><br />I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-66201837943180804542012-03-06T08:19:09.528+00:002012-03-06T08:19:09.528+00:00Fascinating stuff Chris.
Quick logistical questio...Fascinating stuff Chris.<br /><br />Quick logistical question.<br /><br />If setting up the tarp as a basecamp and heading out to visit some hills using your trekking poles, can you collapse the tarp securely, or is it a more sensible option to bring an additional tarp pole from MLD or similar supplier?<br /><br />Dave PorterDave Porterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03276366235655727607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-30477402879292866532012-03-06T06:22:10.909+00:002012-03-06T06:22:10.909+00:00Chris be careful using 2mm dyneema with this shelt...Chris be careful using 2mm dyneema with this shelter. It won't work well with the fitted linelocs and will slip in a storm (particularly when wet). Trust me, I've tried all the alternatives! Its best to use what MLD supply as it NEVER slips. Because of the size of the Trailstar and its lack of guys the pressure on the pegging points is greater than most shelters and you don't want to Colin Ibbotsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-24545484802287061432012-03-06T00:09:48.612+00:002012-03-06T00:09:48.612+00:00Chris, I agree with you. I'd choose the silnyl...Chris, I agree with you. I'd choose the silnylon. With guys and pegs the weight difference will probably be well under 200 grams. <br /><br />The Trailstar is also a great step forward from other tarps as it's so much more weather resistant.Chris Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04282926597863688874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-12294593497976319802012-03-05T23:37:06.961+00:002012-03-05T23:37:06.961+00:00My predictive text fails on Cuban (Cuben)My predictive text fails on Cuban (Cuben)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365887133394304785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-19911360644203409822012-03-05T23:34:06.720+00:002012-03-05T23:34:06.720+00:00Just 'listening' in on you guys.
This is ...Just 'listening' in on you guys.<br /><br />This is top notch reviewing here. Am currently trying to decided on Silnylon or Cuban and am leaning toward Silnylon for it's slight flexibility advantage. I don't like the thought of pitching the apparently less forgiving Cuban in less than ideal conditions (wind, pitch area etc)<br /><br />Not sure the weight saving (and additional Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365887133394304785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-67125427590195538492012-03-05T22:51:28.883+00:002012-03-05T22:51:28.883+00:00Tony, I don't know just how much easier the si...Tony, I don't know just how much easier the silnylon Trailstar is to pitch. The stretch obviously makes a difference but I'd need to pitch one to see how much.<br /><br />Thinner line would save a little weight though not very much. It would make the guys slide through the LineLoks much more easily.Chris Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04282926597863688874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-33051338250297369642012-03-05T22:09:09.665+00:002012-03-05T22:09:09.665+00:00Steven, I have lots of heavy guy on it.
Chris, whe...Steven, I have lots of heavy guy on it.<br />Chris, when I switch guy to 2mm will that save quite a bit if guy<br /> weight?<br /><br />PS - my last comment not worded well, sorry.<br /><br />T.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-85139760836322244022012-03-05T22:05:50.652+00:002012-03-05T22:05:50.652+00:00Thanks Steven for info.
Chris, if you get a sheet ...Thanks Steven for info.<br />Chris, if you get a sheet keep us posted on how it goes.<br /><br />I think it was pegging position that flummoxed my pitiful attempts. <br /><br />Chris, baring in mind you not seen a silnylon TS, do you think the cuben is potentially much trickier to pitch? Rather than virtually the same, as we sort of thought originally.<br />TonyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-59721676346595774972012-03-05T19:30:08.046+00:002012-03-05T19:30:08.046+00:0040+ nights is impressive for the Double Glazing sh...40+ nights is impressive for the Double Glazing sheet. I'll have to get one!<br /><br />Looking at pictures of the silnylon Trailstar (I've never seen one of these) the curves between the corners show the stretch. I guess it's easy to tighten the guys and remove any wrinkles or looseness. You can't do that with the Cuben Fibre one. The position of the peg is crucial.Chris Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04282926597863688874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-80291507416377001782012-03-05T16:26:29.689+00:002012-03-05T16:26:29.689+00:00I am on my second Wickes Double Glazing sheet afte...I am on my second Wickes Double Glazing sheet after over 40+ nights out. I could still use the original, it had just got very dirty and torn the corners only. I still have the original and will clean it at some point and could still use it.<br /><br />Interesting that with pegs and original guy line its <i>only</i> 200g lighter than the silnylon (mine 694g). I've pitched mine in some places ISteven Hornerhttp://www.stevenhorner.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-49638502998440704182012-03-05T15:32:59.679+00:002012-03-05T15:32:59.679+00:00Alastair, I would use it in most place at any time...Alastair, I would use it in most place at any time. The only drawback I can see would be on narrow and small sites as it does cover a big area. However being a tarp it's flexible enough to adapt to this, unlike a fixed shape tent.<br /><br />Tony, I wonder how long that Wickes sheet will last. The weight is good.Chris Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04282926597863688874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063908328061898266.post-80360905244408772512012-03-05T09:53:53.357+00:002012-03-05T09:53:53.357+00:00Hi Chris, When would you not use it ?
AlastairHi Chris, When would you not use it ?<br />AlastairAlastairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07347457602246280811noreply@blogger.com